Well, well, well…we don’t know all the facts? No kidding!

Well, well, well! According to WESH.com, they are saying that Caylee’s death could have been an accident! They are also saying without proof the prosecution will have a hard time proving it. Who says the State doesn’t have proof?

I am going to say that the 31 days mommy was out running to different guys houses and partying up a storm, and not telling anyone anything and claiming to be out using her avenues to find Caylee, not to mention that she was stealing Amy’s money, getting tattoos, and shopping at Target and videoing at Block buster, I think they have a better chance than the Team Baez. And there is also Lee’s immunity deal! Yea something is up there!

I also believe that with the death penalty back on the table, they have more information than we know! The prosecutors are not out running their mouths like the team Baez is, they are behind doors not opening their mouths! Sure we get documents dumped at us, but there is so much information that we don’t know, it will more than likely put all to shame! Oh yea, and lets not forget the audio tapes of Leonard Padilla and gang! Those are for sure going to bring Casey to shame with a jury!

I am really sorry, but if it was an accident, then maybe she should have called 911 a bunch of time and not mommy dearest and daddy who were NOT answering!

VOTE: Do you think it was an accident!

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277 thoughts on “Well, well, well…we don’t know all the facts? No kidding!

  1. Good Morning Everyone!

    I don’t believe it was an accident.

    When you take Casey’s behavior and statements she made…along with computer searches before Caylee was murdered. Then you take Casey’s behavior, statements along with the 31 days after Caylee was murdered. Only thing that changed she was free to do what she wanted.
    Lets not forget the parents felt Casey was responsible…otherwise they too would have called 911 right away. Instead damage control started and Cindy was not serious about a child missing until she had the nanny to blame.

    If it was an accident Casey needs to take the stand and explain to the jury why she didn’t call 911. She needs to explain why Caylee’s mouth was wrapped with duct tape and why she threw her away like a piece of trash.

    There are so many things Casey then needs to explain to the jury. I know they won’t put her on the stand…the state would tare her up. But again like I said before this is going to hurt her at trial. It doesn’t matter if they go with accident or kidnapping. The jury will want to hear from Casey what happened that day for Caylee to end up dead.
    The circumstances around the kidnapping doesn’t make sense and neither does the circumstances around an accident. Casey’s experts can’t explain what happened that day for her…she needs to. From what we have heard from both sides and what we have seen in evidence…I again believe the state can prove premeditated murder.

    As much as I don’t believe it was an accident…I do think the defense is better off going with an accident.

    Have a good day everyone…talk to you tonight.

  2. hi everyone!! I could not find you and posted my question at “Casey update 14 sept” at 03:33…
    I’ll try to get back to you later!!

  3. Filipa, good thought “that she might have come across something that she should not have seen in the lab”. After all, there must have been chemicals (drugs) around there. I think you might be on to something. I also don’t think it had to do with her personal life. It is connected to the lab environment.

  4. Accident? Bbbbbut….how could that be? The defense is claiming that she is 100% innocent. Makes you wonder why her ass is still sitting in a jail cell if they have evidence of her innocence. Ha ha. I hope she lives a long, horrible life behind bars…….and not the kind of bars she likes. 🙂

  5. http://www.wesh.com/news/20911873/detail.html

    It’s silly at this point to try to say they don’t know how she died, therefore they can’t prove Casey’s guilt. Look at the Scott Peterson case. It was not possible to determine the cause of death of Laci Peterson and her baby. As is with most murder cases, it is circumstantial. Not very often that there are witnesses to murder, especially premeditated murder.

  6. Diana, I’m with you, life without parole. Death is too easy an out for a child murderer. She was responsible for the safety and well being of her baby. She failed, she failed miserably. Poor, poor baby.

  7. Was WESH the station that had the exclusive interview with Bozo a while back? And I love the end of the WFTV video where they focus on the State and said “when prosecutors stopped laughing…”

  8. My thinking was..if they’re fighting already to get her on talk shows…is cause her “coming into the light” must be inevitable…

  9. Karma, I guess if 90+ and humid is a good day, then we will also be having one. I want to feel cool again. Hopefully, we will hear something about the motions today. Boy, this thing sure does draw out. I see other cases that just move forward here within a couple of months. How long can the defense drag this out. Is there any limit to the number of motions they can file. As I understand it, the prosecution is ready. Who determines when the defense is ready?

  10. muesli,i say only,the grandjury,i am sure it was 12 smart people,she charged her for 1 degree murder,and on this time she had no body!the another prosecution have no proof,thats B.S!!

  11. is this weird what luka (was lee lawyer) say

    It suggests a certain level of commitment or premeditation,” said attorney Tom Luka, who at one time represented Anthony’s brother, Lee. He also has prosecuted about 50 fifty homicide cases.

    Luka said the state can use Casey Anthony’s own lies and deception to fill the hole in their case.

    “If it was an accident, then the prosecution can hammer the jury with why didn’t she come clean initially,” he said.

    That argument rings true for others who’ve followed the case.

    Said James Lormand, “Whether it was an accident or not that killed her, the fact that she tried to cover it up still means she’s guilty.”

  12. oh, she accidently googled the chloroform? and accidently stumbled into the target for party clothes?? WWWWWWWWWWWWWhat!?? Come on now. she was accidently having a pretty good time for her self

  13. once upon a time, casey accidently found herself pregnant with a baby she did not want and now does not have. she herself was a spoiled brat, that lied cheated and stole from everyone. what she took from Caylee cannot be returned

  14. IF DEFENSE goes for such absurd story…..

    they’ll go for the pool accident! AND AFTERWARDS she went into “shock” and denial, and could not accept the child was dead, creating this alternative “kisnapp” in her subconcious, in order to “maintain hope” in the childs comeback….

    FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!DO THE DEF THINK WE?RE ALL MORONS?

  15. at what point does defending someone become more rediculous than the crime itself? Defense should not mean “changing” the facts or further adding to the cover up. are they compounding the crime?

  16. Mikka
    as far as i can remenber, you had your money on a “maintainance man” with access to building!!!~

    I think she watched/ackowlege something she shouldnt in the “research lab”…and had to “desapear ” afterwards (that or some animal cruelty nutty activist) it’s not about stalker (crime of passion) I think it was about the work in the lab!!!

  17. Y
    ou probably think I’m crase cause I’m talking about too many things…

    Musli- JC duggard
    Mikka- the yale murder
    Karma- KC Anthony “accident”

    I’m sorry,I’ll shut up for a bit!!

  18. morning everyone
    how would you claim you accidentally killed your child after her remains were found with several layers of duct tape over her mouth..and lets not forget the heart shaped sticker..like the kiss of death

  19. thats what luka say,

    Luka said the state can use Casey Anthony’s own lies and deception to fill the hole in their case.

    “If it was an accident, then the prosecution can hammer the jury with why didn’t she come clean initially,” he said.

    That argument rings true for others who’ve followed the case.

  20. mema,this 12 smart people from the grandjury,charged her guilty without a body!and i think a dead body in the trunk shows alone it was not an accident!

  21. yeah??,for my piece of mind, it would be better the lab tech was in love!!! rather then WMD’s production!!!lol (i have a job, were they trained me to be paranoid!!!remenber?)

  22. Museli…Im with you hoping this trial would get going but with all the motions they defense has up their sleeves Im afraid this will go on for years

  23. Good morning eveyone, been very busy, no time to even lurk, just call me a peeker. I peek at work and I peek where ever a computer is handy. I can’t beleive the defence is bringing this to the table at this late date. I’m sure Lyons is behind it because there really is no other defence that makes sence. cma could’ve said this in the beginning, she had the chance to even take a plea deal. She stuck to her story like white on rice, and now she knows she’s going down. She’ll have to testify if they go this route.

  24. Well Lyons probably has alot to do with it. Up until she came on the scene, Bozo was probably not telling her the truth.i am sure Lyons is showing her the big picture.

  25. mikka…if the defense wants all the media hype on this case to die down they should shut their flappin mouths..prosecution isnt in the media spouting off

  26. your right Mema. If defense wouldn’t argue over everything being released. we would read it, and not realize its such a BOMBSHELL. they are showing their hand at every turn.

  27. Hi eoar34, Lyons job is to save cma’s life. That’s it. There’s no ther way. Her lies are too numerous and her actions speak for themselves. But tell me, how can they explain away the duct tape? That in my opinion besides the 31 days will seal cma’s fate

  28. Morning everyone!

    Reminder, if it doesn’t pertain to the case it goes off topic, or needs to wait until the cit chat comes up!

    I get so sick and tired of these attorney’s. How do we know what the state has? They aren’t talking and all we are getting is re-run documents!

  29. Mikka.. You’re right.. Lyons doesn’t care if Casey is convicted or not.. As long as she spares her the death penalty.. After all, that’s what her reputation is all about.. It doesn’t say she’s won every case she’s been involved with, but as I understand it she’s 100% effective at getting the death penalty tossed.. Am I reading that right??

  30. morning lynda…the “rare type” of duct tape is right on and she didnt report her daughter missing after 31 days…mommy dearest had to just to get some kind of an answer out of that little chit

  31. Hi Humble, we don’t know what the state has. That’s probably a good thing, in that they probably have plenty. The defece is grasping at straws now. They had the chance to go this route last year, but didn’t. they stuck to the nanny story. That in itself speaks volumes.

  32. They need to go to trial.. this is getting really really truly sick… the Bozo teem needs to be shut down.. Work is calling.. have a nice day everyone

  33. morning Humble
    Im sure the state’s evidence will give us pretty much the clear picture of what happened..maybe not the whole picture

  34. Hi Lynda, we don’t know! But we do know there is alot that we havent’ gotten! I guess the attorneys can’t figure it out!

    I am not sure I ever remember a case that was accidental and there was accidental duck tape invovled!

  35. comment on wesh,

    I feel she is guilty, and that precious child, Caylee, deserves to have justice.”
    – User comment from flapjackslady

  36. Ladies.. Not to open up a new can of worms, but I was just doing some research and what I’ve found so far is NOT GOOD!!! I have only read a couple of pages thus far though.. Keep that in mind..

    About Andrea Lyon:

    In 2005 she received the president’s commendation from the National Association of Criminal Defense
    Lawyers for her death penalty work. She has defended over thirty potential capital cases at the trial level and has taken nineteen through penalty phase; she has won all nineteen.

  37. Now I don’t know if that means she won, as in all nineteen were acquitted, or that she was successful in getting the death penalty removed from all nineteen.. Haven’t found that out yet, but will keep searching..

  38. I guess I’m just being a doubting Thomas this morning.. I know the state has plenty they haven’t released, and probably won’t until trial. (Unless they HAVE to).. I don’t like her, and am not impressed with what I have seen of her..

  39. may lyons dont have defend in this 19 cases no childkillers,the jury will be more sensitive,when a child is murdered,i feel it in my gut,she will loose!

  40. We can tell by Crazey’s last appearance in court that Lyons has been advising her on how to act and look but that is only a few hours…when this goes to court and drags on for days..I think Crazeys true colors will once again come to light

  41. It doesn’t matter to me if they put Casey to death – being in prison suits me just fine. There is no way she can come out of this clean. NO WAY! She’s already been there a year – if this doesn’t go to trial for another year or 2, she is still sitting in jail! 🙂

  42. Mikka – she was crying because she was wearing that ugly outfit, plus no makeup, plus almost as big as Lyons, plus she’s probably depressed as YELL being locked up and not getting any from her boyfriends, plus no phone and texing. That’s why cma is crying! LOL

  43. mikka…no more late jail house visits may have her worried he’s defending another client more than her..
    Humble..he shouldnt even be allowed in court…especially on this case..he needs to go apply for his own Bozo the clown show

  44. If it was an accident, that would have been put out there a long time ago.

    They are leaking the idea of an accident because they know they will lose the case. So they are trying to lessen the damage. If people buy the idea that it was an accident, then she probably won’t get the death penalty.

    Then again, they’ve stood by their assertions all this time that SOMEBODY ELSE did this. So how come it was probably an accident? Sounds like if somebody else did it, they meant to kill her.

    Nothing the defense does makes any sense. They are flying by the seat of their pants.

    She’s going down.

  45. Goodbye all, as always it’s been great chatting with great people. Have to go to work. No time to lurk, but time to peek. God Bless, and Justice for Caylee.

  46. bye lynda..have a good day
    you’re right about that Sophie…did the nanny accidentally kill her, or Jesse, or Amy, or Tony or did Crazey

  47. I wonder if and when she is convicted of this murder, if she will be put into general population. I understand there is a criminal code in prisons concerning baby killers. If it is deemed that she would come to harm in general population, then she would have to spend the rest of her life in seclusion. Now, that’s a happy thought. Remember, Caylee was in seclusion all those months on Suburban Drive.

  48. Museli..I think if she is convicted she will go to gen. population regardless of the threat to her..if she gets the DP they are all together in a different section

  49. hey all, this is just another tactic ,or, i prefer rouse to shift the opinion of jurors away from dp. we are all just bloggers, ordinary people trying to make a living, who possess COMMON SENSE. i still maintain that defense lawyers think the public is stupid. let’s not forget dr. g’s EXPERT opinion concerning the means of death—- homicide! i would certainly give more credence to her opinion than to those bunch of less than ethical “lawyers”, and i use the word lawyer loosely. have a great day and not to worry. justice WILL prevail for precious Caylee!

  50. Back.. For just a few.. Still researching Lyons.. Found a couple of interesting tidbits.. From one of HER writings called Defending the Life-or-Death Case. Give you a little hint of what kind of strategy she will use in the Casey case.. Of these three, only number 2 seems to apply in the Casey ordeal.

    copied and pasted..

    The final nuts and bolts in a capital trial comes in the life phase. Mitigation is anything that might persuade a jury to punish with less than the death penalty. In essence, the defense attorney should bring the following three types of evidence to
    the jury’s attention:
    1. showing the jury the good things the client has done throughout his life;
    2. explaining how the client became the person he is now, i.e., why he has been violent. This is usually shown through evidence of abuse, psychiatric conditions, addictions, or other family and developmental problems; and
    3. convincing the jury that the defendant’s life has value for himself and others.

  51. Another interesting thing I found is that Rachel Lyon, (supposedly Andrea Lyons sister), produced a short film on defending a case that’s popular in the media… I didn’t listen to the whole thing, don’t have time right now.. But Andrea Lyon is in it.. You can find it on youtube.. Just type in Juror number six.. (If you interested)

  52. Seems to me (as much as I wanted the case to go forward quickly) that the longer the defense drags this case out….they are putting the noose around Casey’s neck themselves. They can’t lie and cover their lies, C&G’s lies, Lee’s lies and Casey’s lies forever. They go full circle and then are found out when they tell “DIFFERENT STORIES” eventually – like DCASEY just did! He He He He — The stall time of the defense has been in the prosecution’s (and little Caylee’s) favor.

  53. This “hole” in the prosecution’s case is, IMO, ridiculous. I also think this idea was something dreamed up by either the defense or the news–just to give us something to chew on.
    I think it’s ridiculous because: even though we have the Sunshine Law, that makes most evidence available to us, there are still certain kinds of evidence that are excempt from the rules of the Sunshine Law and this is what the public has not seen yet.
    That, and the fact that the DP wasn’t brought to the table until AFTER Casey had been charged and was sitting in jail for a few months. The Death Penalty is not something that is casually added or taken away from the charges; this is as serious as it gets. In order for the Death Penalty to be added to the charges, evidence of something so heinous had to have been found. My money is on this heinous evidence, that has not been released yet due to the exemption laws and will come out during the trial. This of course, is just my opinion…

  54. I wonder if these new 2000 pages contains something compelling…it’s interesting that they announce its release right after filing the motion for the defense to show their cards.

  55. CMA: The Nanny did it…
    Jose: Can’t find the nanny
    CMA: Jesse did it
    Jose: No proof
    CMA: It was an accident
    Jose: Hmmmm, sounds reasonable
    CMA: D Casey did it
    Jose: But I paid him!
    CMA: Lee did it
    Jose: He has immunity
    CMA: G & C did it!
    Jose: Beep, beep…here comes the bus!
    CMA: Maybe I did it
    Jose: You did not sweetheart, what kind of lawyer would I be if I let my client, friend, lover, cash cow, plead guilty?
    CMA: OK I’ll shut up and let you decide what is best for me.

    lol….Kill me now..how much more of this can we all take?

  56. I hope someone is here.. HEEELLLPP.. I just went to the Orange county clerks site a few minutes ago.. There was something filed on the murder charge file yesterday.. I’ve copied and pasted it.. Just don’t know what it is..

    9/14/2009 A NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY

  57. Eoar .. Those are things that came from a piece that Lyons wrote.. It’s things that she brings to the jury, to try to have the death penalty taken away from the sentencing phase.. IMO, none of those things really apply to Casey.. #1 doesn’t apply.. As far as we know she’s done nothing good in her life.. Now, her boyfriend/lovers may have another opinion on that, but I don’t think THAT would apply in this case.. #3 states this: convincing the jury that the defendant’s life has value for himself and others. Well, her life may have value for herself, and for Cindy and George, and maybe for her attorneys, but I don’t think another person on this planet really cares whether she lives or dies.. She took away the only good reason her life would have been of any value at all when she murdered her baby.. The only one that Lyons MAY be able to use would be number 2, which states: explaining how the client became the person he is now, i.e., why he has been violent. This is usually shown through evidence of abuse, psychiatric conditions, addictions, or other family and developmental problems. EVERYTHING that Lyons could possibly use on this one would point right back to the perfect Cindy and George, and would bury both of them right under that bus.. IMO..

  58. I don’t know what it is Mikka.. It was filed right below the prosecutions motion for the defense to provide documentation of the proof that Caylee was put there after Casey went to jail. It sounds like someone has filed something, saying that something is not available.. But I’m no lawyer, so I don’t know.. We could only hope it was the defense filing that they don’t have the documentation asked for.. *LOL*

  59. Could be chlry.. Hadn’t thought of that.. It doesn’t say who it is, or when they’ll be unavailable though.. And if that is it, I wonder who it is?? The fire down below may be getting hot, and someone is skipping town.. We know it’s not Casey, she’s not going anywhere, no matter how hot the fire gets.. She’ll just have to sit there and roast.. PHEW.. That would stink.. Crap smells real bad when it burns.. *ROFL*

  60. I found this.. HAD TO BE THE DUHFENSE that filed it.. Looks like another darn stall tactic to me.. GRRRRR

    Attorneys often make use of the notice procedure in situations, such as a planned vacation, to preemptively ward off surprise attacks from opposing counsel. In Carl v. Superior Court (2007), the Court of Appeal expressed its frustration with what it views as the abuse of this practice. According to the court, “to the extent this practice attempts to put control of the court’s calendar in the hands of counsel – as opposed to the judiciary – it is an impermissible infringement of the court’s inherent powers.

  61. It was on the criminal case chlry.. On the case where the prosecution filed the motion for the defense to prove what they were yakking about in court the last time.. Filed right below the prosecutions motion.. See:

    9/3/2009 A TRANSCRIPT FILED HEARING ON AMENDED MOTION TO COMPEL BEFORE HON. STAN STRICKLAND 03/12/09
    9/10/2009 A STATE OF FLORIDA’S MOTION TO COMPEL RECIPROCAL DISCOVERY FILED
    9/14/2009 A NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY

  62. i saw that to justme , it prevents sudden motions or depositions settings when you plan to be out of town …. so who is getting a vacation is the question

  63. There may be hope yet.. Read this:

    The court rejected the idea that under Tenderloin, a notice of unavailability has the effect of prohibiting opposing counsel or the court from taking any action during that period which adversely affects the unavailable party. As the court described it, “simply put, petitioner essentially argues that by filing a ‘notice of unavailability’ he unilaterally called a litigation time-out.” The court strongly disagreed, noting that the petitioner had no power to stop a court from issuing orders and could not use a notice of unavailability to extend statutorily imposed deadlines or time periods.

  64. It’s someone on the defense team no doubt chlry.. Just another tactic to try to give them more time to “Fake” their evidence.. According to the above paragraph, it seems that Judge Strickland could shoot down that motion though.. I hope that if he can, he does without hesitation.. That would teach them that he’s TIRED of dealing with them, and to get the show on the road.. It’s utterly sickening that they’ll stoop to the levels that they have.. And if it’s not the defense team, I’m sorry.. I just have a gut feeling that it is though..

  65. I’m still keeping my fingers crossed.. Read this also:

    The Carl court made it very clear that there was no authority for filing notices of unavailability in the appellate courts, and Carl also calls into question the use of the practice in the trial courts. In the wake of Carl, the “notice of availability” may itself become unavailable.

  66. I’d say if Mikka read the above, she’s off somewhere with a fire extinguisher putting out her head.. I’d say she’s SMOKING MAD.. *LOL*

  67. chlry.. I think someone needs to email that information to Kathy Belich.. Obviously the news hasn’t picked up on it yet.. She’d be all over it if they had.. *L*

  68. I bet it’s Baez that’s going to be unavailable.. I bet he’s got a case of the dumps again.. That’s okay.. I’ll bring him one of our hillbilly toilets.. He can dump and defend at the same time.. I’ll even put wheels on it for him.. *LMAO*

  69. the more i read up on it justme i think it’s bozo , lyons or someone on the defense taking the vacation

    i’ll look for kathy’s email , don’t know it lol

  70. No mikka.. It just means that someone has filed a notice that they will be unavailable for the case.. For questioning, for motions, etc.. Read all of my posts above, but get your fire extinguisher ready, by all means.. I know you have a hot head.. *LOL*.. It’s just another delay from the duhfense.. not a doubt in my mind..

  71. Thanks Mikka..

    I think what it all boils down to is this:
    They opened their mouth, inserted their foot when they said that they had PROOF that Caylee was put there AFTER Casey was in jail.. So the prosecution filed the motion, wanted PROOF of this.. Now the defense is in a mess.. All of a sudden they can’t find the proof, and by all means they can’t tell the judge they can’t find it.. SO they file the motion of unavailability, saying they’re not going to be available for anything for such and such time.. Gives them the time they need to find their proof, or to fake their proof, whichever may be the case. I think we all know what the case is.. THEY DON’T HAVE ANY PROOF, and are in DEEP CHIT.. Are needing a shovel to dig out of it, and Orlando doesn’t sell shovels that big.. Gonna have to go and find one.. *LMAO*

  72. According to what I have read, the Judge has authority to shoot that motion right in its azz, and I HOPE LIKE HE11 that he does.. I’d laugh so hard I’d need an oxygen mask..

  73. I have an idea for a whole new show.. You guys ever watched “Scare Tactics”?? We’ll start a show called “Stall Tactics”, with Lyons, Bozo, Maculoso, and Baden as it’s star players.. *LMAO*

  74. lol , i hope you are right about all of that justme , keep laughing because we need it , this is going to long and drawn out , dad gum it !

  75. Can we go some other room for alaugh? ..in off-topic maybe???otherwise my posts go out to space!!!you find a place to chit chat, i’ll follow!!

  76. What are people in the street saying? One woman said she thought the child’s death had been an accident, and another woman said it would be difficult to convict Anthony without clearer evidence. But a man said that Anthony’s attempts to cover up the crime exposed her guilt.

    “The prosecution still has no evidence to tell you exactly how she [Caylee] died, what caused her death,” said Richard Hornsby, a defense attorney who does analysis for the station.

    Kealing listed some major pieces of circumstantial evidence that suggest premeditation: the computer searches into neck-breaking, the duct tape on Caylee’s skull, the scent of death in Casey’s car and the single strand of decomposing hair.

    Attorney Tom Luka said the prosecution can use Casey’s lies to make up for any deficiencies in evidence. Luka used to represent Lee Anthony, Casey’s brother.

  77. I honestly think that if there’s any way LEGALLY that Strickland can deny this motion, he will.. What I think is going to happen is the Judge is going to get tired of fooling with the Dream Team, and he’s going to get REAL rough with them.. And I’m going to laugh my azz right off when he does.. They want change of venue?? I suggest they bring the trial here.. I’ll even get their motel rooms at a reduced rate for them.. Put them in front of OUR judge, let’s see how long they last.. He wouldn’t put up with their BS for one minute.. He’d tell them to get their azz ready, or quit the case.. *L*

  78. exactly mikka , i don’t think you have to prove a cause of death to show it was an accident , tape over her mouth and head shows there was no accident , along with the way her and her family has acted this whole time before and after

  79. Strike that.. I don’t think there’s a protective custody room for Casey, unless they put her in a dark drabby holding cell.. They put her in general population here, and she wouldn’t make it to trial.. Some REDNECK Bertha would have her for lunch.. *L*

  80. cya’ll later too.. I have to go pick up mine, and it’s time to leave.. I probably won’t be able to get back online later.. I have to work.. Talk to you all ASAP.. *HUGS*

  81. It was no accident! The 31 days,which I think would have been longer if Cindy didn’t find her. Her behavior,partying,sleeping with different men,renting movies,stealing money that don’t belong to you,shopping and there was nothing for Caylee. The searches she made online.The duct tape,which would make no sense if it was an accident.Oh let not forget the tatoo,Its a beautiful life. Does that sound like a caring mother,no it doesn’t. Caylee was a pawn to keep the life she has known. To Cindy,when Casey became preggy with Caylee.You should have kept your nose out of it. Casey was old enough to make her own decision,and you should have respect her wishes. If Casey had given Caylee up for adoption,she might be here. The family plays a big part in Casey life,they should have straigten her out from the beginning,what was right/wrong.I pray that the family are charged along with their Sl*t of a daughter!!!

  82. mikka
    see ya!
    not much going on at the moment..I like when it comes down to the nitty grity, or when juicy news nail her beyond any doubt (then I feel like celebrating!!!)

  83. What is with Luka attorney comments? He used to work for Lee. His comments don’t help the defense at all……

    If it was an accident, how did the tape get wrapped around her mouth & she got stuffed in the bags? Not to mention thrown away in the woods. are they kidding with that article? They don’t have to prove HOW it was done anyway.

  84. I still say…”Seems to me (as much as I wanted the case to go forward quickly) that the longer the defense drags this case out….they are putting the noose around Casey’s neck themselves. They can’t lie and cover their lies, C&G’s lies, Lee’s lies and Casey’s lies forever. They go full circle and then are found out when they tell “DIFFERENT STORIES” eventually – like DCASEY just did! He He He He — The stall time of the defense has been in the prosecution’s (and little Caylee’s) favor.” BOTH JUDGES ARE GOING TO GET FED UP WITH THE DREAM TEAM AND THEIR CLIENTS AND START PLAYING HARD BALL WITH THEIR NONSENSE…then the tables will continue to turm and justice for Caylee will be served!

  85. Casey has two excuses — some other person did it (the nanny, one of her boyfriends, one of her girl friends, the meter reader, etc.) — or it was an accident.

    Just because Casey could say it was an accident doesn’t mean that’s true. In fact, if Casey says anything, it probably isn’t true.

    That Michael Peterson guy in NC said his wife died accidentally, in a fall down the stairs. Later, when that didn’t convince a jury, he said an owl attacked her. And got an expert to say “hey, it could have happened that way.” (Owls is mean!)((But most people is smarter, thank goodness.))

    Look, has the defense planted ANY reasonable doubt in any of your minds yet? Of course not.

    Your child dies in an accidental manner so you duct tape her mouth shut and toss her body in a laundry bag and dump her in the woods for animals to eat??? Come on!

  86. “Your child dies in an accidental manner so you duct tape her mouth shut and toss her body in a laundry bag and dump her in the woods for animals to eat??? Come on!”

    Well said.

  87. Hello Everyone…

    I bet Luka is happy to be done with his part on this case. Now his face is a little more known and he is being asked his opinion. This is good for him and I am glad he is being honest…saying it as he sees it.

    This is where I think Lyons will go with insufficient evidence…She will say there is no cause of death to say murder for all the state knows it could have been an accident. The jury will decide this, because when they get it…unlike the defense and the defense from Wesh news…they will look at ALL the eveidence surrounding Caylee’s death. Not just the cause.

  88. Although it was nothing big, I’m still excited… I just asked her about the motion filed on 9/14/2009.. She said:

    Haven’t seen it but usually it’s a heads up that someone has commitments on certain days.. So the court does not schedule hearings for those days and then has to REschedule

    So then I emailed her back, because I FORGOT to ask in the first email, and asked her if there was any way to find out WHO filed it?? Then politely gave her my opinion that I think it’s just another stall tactic from the defense because the prosecution called their bluff.. *L*

  89. here steph

    It was on the criminal case chlry.. On the case where the prosecution filed the motion for the defense to prove what they were yakking about in court the last time.. Filed right below the prosecutions motion.. See:

    9/3/2009 A TRANSCRIPT FILED HEARING ON AMENDED MOTION TO COMPEL BEFORE HON. STAN STRICKLAND 03/12/09
    9/10/2009 A STATE OF FLORIDA’S MOTION TO COMPEL RECIPROCAL DISCOVERY FILED
    9/14/2009 A NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY

  90. Actually it’s called a “Notice of Unavailability”.. It was filed yesterday, AFTER the prosecution filed the “put out or shut up” motion.. So I’m thinking it was filed by the defense, as a stall tactic, because they can’t “put out or shut up” and this gives them time to “fake it”.. By that’s JMO

    Here it is:
    9/14/2009 A NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY

  91. These two posts were from earlier today.. But this case happened in California.. Don’t know how it affects Florida Law, or even if it does..

    There may be hope yet.. Read this:

    The court rejected the idea that under Tenderloin, a notice of unavailability has the effect of prohibiting opposing counsel or the court from taking any action during that period which adversely affects the unavailable party. As the court described it, “simply put, petitioner essentially argues that by filing a ‘notice of unavailability’ he unilaterally called a litigation time-out.” The court strongly disagreed, noting that the petitioner had no power to stop a court from issuing orders and could not use a notice of unavailability to extend statutorily imposed deadlines or time periods.

    I’m still keeping my fingers crossed.. Read this also:

    The Carl court made it very clear that there was no authority for filing notices of unavailability in the appellate courts, and Carl also calls into question the use of the practice in the trial courts. In the wake of Carl, the “notice of availability” may itself become unavailable.

  92. Therefore, I’m thinking that Strickland can shoot this NOTICE right in the AZZ if he wants to, and he just may do it if he sees it as another stall in favor of the defense.. I think that soon he’s going to say ENOUGH is ENOUGH, and lets get this darned thing on the road.. I HOPE SO ANYWAY!!

  93. another copy and paste.. My last one, I promise.. *L*

    I think what it all boils down to is this:
    They opened their mouth, inserted their foot when they said that they had PROOF that Caylee was put there AFTER Casey was in jail.. So the prosecution filed the motion, wanted PROOF of this.. Now the defense is in a mess.. All of a sudden they can’t find the proof, and by all means they can’t tell the judge they can’t find it.. SO they file the motion of unavailability, saying they’re not going to be available for anything for such and such time.. Gives them the time they need to find their proof, or to fake their proof, whichever may be the case. I think we all know what the case is.. THEY DON’T HAVE ANY PROOF, and are in DEEP CHIT.. Are needing a shovel to dig out of it, and Orlando doesn’t sell shovels that big.. Gonna have to go and find one.. *LMAO*

  94. Humble.. I was thinking it said after next week also.. Maybe they moved it up.. Maybe that’s when the Dream team is going to be unavailable, so they can release with little resistance.. *LOL*

  95. Hi all. Have been laid up with this terrible head cold for the last week, but tried to keep up.

    Could it be Todd Macaluso who would not be available as he has taken on another big case.

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